In Clerks, Dante Hicks dismisses the third film in the Star Wars trilogy saying “All Jedi had was a bunch of muppets”. It’s a harsh assessment of the movie, but highlights a problem that some viewers have with the movie. The Ewoks.
This alien race, who look like teddy bears, are the kind of thing that little kids love, but for older audiences appear rather cutesy and twee. Personally, I quite like the Ewoks, because their guerrilla tactics against a superior foe are surprisingly brutal and they are kinda cute. Also, they don’t look so bad after some later additions to the universe.
While it’s not as good as Empire, I still love this movie, which continues the trilogy’s crowd pleasing, entertaining action. It brings the Darth Vader (the body of David Prowse voiced by James Earl Jones) story to an end, with him earning redemption thanks to the faith and goodness of his son Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill). Their final showdown where the Emperor (Ian McDiarmid) attempts to get Luke to give in to the Dark Side is well done, with Luke finally realising what’s going on and stopping himself.
Vader, witnessing this mercy and then the Emperor’s attack on Luke finally rediscovers his good nature, lost years earlier. He sacrifices himself to kill the Emperor and Luke escapes before the Rebels manage to destroy the second Death Star, which they had been tricked into believing was yet to be operational.
The Death Star, half built and hanging in space is visually striking and the revelation that the Emperor has set a trap for the good guys raises the stakes greatly and sets up the largest space battle of the series.
Meanwhile, on the planet there’s a different battle going on as Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher) and Han Solo (Harrison Ford) lead a small rebel force, and the Ewoks against the Empire’s forces to try and disable the force field that protects the Death Star. The fight, which sees the primitive Ewoks triumph through ingenuity and surprising viciousness (their cuteness distracts from the fact they are straight up murdering Stormtroopers).
Han Solo’s rescue from Jabba’s clutches is a cracker, providing some old school heroics from Luke Skywalker, and shows Leia is a badass herself, having posed as a bounty hunter she thaws out the frozen smuggler only to be kidnapped, but she gets free and kills Jabba. It’s a shame all these heroic moments have been overshadowed in the public consciousness by her golden bikini.
Of course, the movie also includes the big reveal that Luke and Leia are twin siblings, which Luke discovers from the dying Yoda (Frank Oz). It changes the dynamic between the two, and works rather well. It also clears the way for Han and Leia’s relationship to blossom fully, and this is the heart for much of the movie, with the two’s bickering softening and Han confessing his feelings this time around.
What makes this movie work is the ending, where good triumphs and Luke makes peace with his father, and the galaxy celebrates. It’s an entirely satisfying ending to the series and while it’s since been added to, it still serves as a solid ending.
There’s heroism, resolution and some cracking intergalactic action, and just like the other two movies it continues to entertain years and many rewatches later.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
Star Wars was a game changer in many ways, in terms of blockbusters and memorabilia but it’s the second movie in the original trilogy that’s impact is still felt. Countless film series made since has attempted to follow the Empire model with the second movie having a darker, more downbeat ending that leaves the heroes in poor shape before they rally in the third part.
But although often imitated, The Empire Strikes Back has never been matched and is still the stand out movie in the four part Star Wars saga. I fell in love with the first movie, but it paled when I saw this one, and this is where I became a lifelong fan of the series.
Unlike a lot of movies which include a massive twist, this movie is more than just that big reveal. The moment where the villainous Darth Vader (body by David Prowse, voice by James Earl Jones) reveals that Obi Wan was telling porkies and that he is actually Luke Skywalker’s (Mark Hamill) father is one that has slightly lost it’s impact thanks to countless rip offs and gags, but for audiences in 1980 it must have been an absolute stunner.
If I have kids I’m going to show them the Star Wars trilogy at a young age and hopefully ensure that this twist is fresh for them, as it’ll probably make more of an impact.
The reveal sets up the finale brilliantly, but it also contributes to the downbeat ending which made Empire so special. The end of the movie finds our heroes in a bad way, Luke is reeling from the news his enemy is his papa and has lost a hand, Leia (Carrie Fisher) has finally admitted that she loves Han Solo (Harrison Ford), only to see him frozen and taken prisoner.
But the ending doesn’t depress you. Luke has a robot hand and Chewbacca (Peter Mayhew) sets off to find Han. It leaves the audience hooked- will they be able to rescue their old friend? How will Luke and Vader’s next meeting go? And will the war with the Empire ever be over?
The defeat they suffer works because it delivers on it’s title. If a villain is always vanquished they begin to lose their edge for audiences (see the Daleks), what they got right in this series was that while the Empire had lost the first movie they win this one, and the good guys barely escape. It makes the villains all the more evil, and more of a threat, it’s a smart move.
Of course, a solid ending isn’t enough and what makes this such a cracker is everything that builds up to it. We find the Rebels on a snowy planet and Han debating leaving as he needs to sort out the bounty hunters on his trail. His decision to leave causes an argument between him and Leia, and suggests that there is a growing attraction there.
Ford and Fisher, who we recently found out were getting it on behind the scenes, have phenomenal chemistry on screen and their bickering, flirty scenes together are among the best in film. The story splits up our group, leaving Leia, Han, Chewie and C-3PO (Anthony Daniels) on the run and trying to find a safe place to hole up, while Luke travels to continue his Jedi training.
This is another aspect that would work for first time viewers, the reveal of Yoda (Frank Oz). When Luke seeks out the Jedi Master who taught Obi Wan the audience expects a great warrior and intergalactic badass, the revelation that the little green man is actually the master is a nice subversion of expectations.
Yoda’s wisdom and training sees Luke develop his skills, and this is an interesting storyline as we see Luke get stronger and discover more about the Force.
This movie improves on the first by adding to the characters and by having a superior script, shown not only in Han and Leia’s flirtations, but throughout. And there are memorable moments throughout- the AT-ATs advancing through the snow, the trippy sequence where Luke faces his fears, the climactic fight.
I love this movie because it’s great fun, and shows us more of the universe. It also introduces Lando Calrissian, played by Billy Dee Williams, who is pretty damn suave.
It’s a perfect middle movie for a trilogy, which doesn’t just act as a bridge but serves to up the stakes, grow the story and ensure the audience is even more invested in the characters.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
Disclaimer: Before any fans get narked, I know that’s not the full title, but putting it all in would be awfully long and you all know which movie I mean.
I must have seen the Star Wars films as a little kid, but I can’t really remember much from those childhood viewings apart from the chase sequence in Jedi. What I do remember is the 20th anniversary special editions. I was almost twelve and they came out just as I was on the brink of geekdom, it was the perfect time for me to see them again.
I can remember the music starting, and the opening scrawl and then that amazing opening shot with Leia’s ship emerging on the screen followed by the imposing Star Destroyer, chasing it across the stars. Even years later the sheer scale of that shot works well and on a big screen it was phenomenal.
The whole opening is done supremely well, especially the entrance of Darth Vader (David Prowse, voice by James Earl Jones).
A million lunchboxes and three dodgy prequels later, Vader has lost his edge somewhat, but on that first watch he’s a menacing presence. Striding imperiously over the bodies of the enemy, his raspy breath and dark, cloaked figure is memorable and has become understandably iconic.
The plot is known to many and quite simple, but a simple story executed well is far better than a complicated one that is bungled. Farm boy Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) dreams of adventure and the wider galaxy when he gets a hold of Princess Leia’s (Carrie Fisher) message for help.
He meets old warrior Obi-Wan Kenobi (Alec Guinness) who explains that he was a friend of Luke’s father before Darth Vader killed him. He begins to train Luke in the use of the Force, a cosmic energy force that flows through all things.
They recruit roguish smuggler Han Solo (Harrison Ford) and his copilot Chewbacca (Peter Mayhew). They head for Alderaan, Leia’s home planet but arrive after it is destroyed by the Empire’s latest weapon the Death Star.
What follows is a story of adventure and heroism as our heroes rescue Leia and deliver the plans for the base. It has a single weak spot and Luke joins the pilots in the attack as the lethal space station closes in on the Rebel base.
It’s hard to look at Star Wars without the cultural baggage that it carries now, without nostalgia and as a movie on its own merits. But this isn’t a review, its a love letter.
I love the world of the movie, I love the bustling energy of the cantina, the scruffiness of Han Solo and his ship the Millennium Falcon. It has a lived in feel that the sterile ships of other sci-fi often lack. They want everything to look cool and shiny, forgetting that people are meant to live there.
I love the characters, from Hamill’s likeable goofiness as the space bumpkin Luke to the bickering droids. I love that Princess Leia takes charge of the guys who are trying, ineptly, to rescue her.
The late, great Carrie Fisher is superb. She makes Leia a strong, confident character who rolls with the bunches and who stands defiant against the forces of the Empire. She runs rings around the swaggering Solo and is an utter delight.
But let’s face it, Han Solo is still the coolest guy in the movie. Harrison Ford brings his easy charm to the role, with a laid back swagger and sarcastic, cynical outlook. But he’s winging it the whole time, surviving on a mix of luck, skill and his comrades.
He’s the old gunslinger who tries to play like he doesn’t care about anything other than money and his own life, but when the chips are down he roars back to make the save.
The action is well done, and while the Vader vs Kenobi fight is hardly a masterpiece of fight choreography it is well performed. Guinness delivers his lines brilliantly, giving depth and power beyond the cliches. He goes into the fight seeming to know that this is the end, but goes to it with dignity, knowing that this isn’t really the end.
The effects have aged in places, but the special edition make over makes up for it, and some of the sequences still hold up. In fact the models and costumes hold up better than most CG will in years to come.
I love the rousing ending, the glorious John Williams score and the ingredients mix to make a film that still fills me with the geeky excitement and love that washed over my twelve year old self.
I love the fun vibe, the dialogue which at times is a little clunky, I love it all.
A pure, simple treat of a movie. It holds up because of the great characters, the simple story of good vs evil and the bags of charm it has. It’s a movie I return to when I want that blast of childish joy, to lose myself in a simpler world with familiar faces.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
Firstly, the good news, this is no Phantom Menace, and despite the hype surrounding its release this movie works and fits with the original Star Wars trilogy in terms of tone and story in a way the prequels never did.
Set many years after the victory over the Empire the story finds Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) is missing and the Republic is in trouble from the threat of the First Order who seek to return the Empire. General Leia Organa (Carrie Fisher) despatches her best pilot, Poe Dameron (Oscar Isaac) to recover a map leading to Luke’s location. On the planet Jakku Poe gets it but the Order catch up with him.
He sends off the details in his droid BB-8, before being captured by Kylo Ren (Adam Driver) the dark Jedi who works for them. During the attack on the village the civilians are slaughtered and stormtrooper FN-2187 (John Boyega) who refuses to go along and is horrified.
He aids Poe in escaping, and Poe names him Finn. They crash and wind up back on Jakku, separated. Finn finds BB-8 who has been found by Rey (Daisy Ridley), a scavenger who scrapes by on Jakku. Finn pretends to be in the resistance and they flee aboard an ageing ship they find at the junkyard.
The ship turns out to be the Millennium Falcon and they are soon tracked down by the former owners Han Solo and Chewbacca (Harrison Ford and Peter Mayhew, respectively). Finn just wants to get away to safety, while Rey, despite her desire to join Solo and travel the galaxy, feels she must return to Jakku to wait for her family to return.
But both find themselves drawn deeper into the resistance and have to decide what role they will play. Will they join the fight or run? What is Kylo Ren’s link to the original characters? And where is Luke?
For me this movie really worked, because it successfully bridged the gap between Return of the Jedi and this new trilogy. The old faces do their jobs well, particularly Ford who exudes the same roguish charm that made Solo a favourite and Fisher, who convinces as an older, slightly jaded Leia.
Their relationship hints at the difficulties that developed after the Empire fell and that it wasn’t the happy ending they hoped for. In their scenes together they capture a realistic sense of a couple divided and reeling from hard times, but still deeply in love.
But what gives a new hope (sorry) is that the new characters work well. Rey is a tough, resourceful heroine and the main character, and Ridley makes her likeable and easy to warm too. It’s also cool to see her stand up for herself and reject Finn’s well-meaning, if sexist, attempts to protect her. Throughout she appears capable, independent and a true hero.
Equally strong is Boyega’s work as Finn, as he manages to capture the former Stormtrooper’s inner conflict, with the character having to fight his instinct to run to do the right thing. He also has serious comedic chops and gets most of the film’s laughs. Oscar Isaac is the least used of the three, but makes Poe a swaggering, self assured hero and he shares good chemistry with Boyega.
The villains do well too, with the First Order capturing the menace of the Empire with a hint of fanaticism which makes them more dangerous. The other strong point is that Kylo Ren clashes with General Hux (Domhnall Gleeson), hinting at divides and that Ren doesn’t have the reputation or standing that Vader held in the Empire.
Ren, who’s been plastered over the merch does make a solid villain and his lack of control makes him distinctly different from Vader and his raw anger makes him unpredictable. The back story reveals more and sets up some of the film’s key moments.
It’s not without flaws, some of the plot points have been seen before and a few events are easy to see coming. The final attack is almost an exact retread of the attack on the Death Star.
One character’s speech about “the same eyes in different faces” feels like a lazy explanation for repeated ideas and characters acting like others.
But JJ Abrams does his job well and the characters feel more real and natural than anything in the prequels and there’s genuine humour and thrills. MWF was more impressed than I was, but I still left happy and keen for the saga to continue.
Verdict: Abrams makes this more fun and engaging than the prequels and the balance between new and old faces is about right. Some of it gives a feeling of déjà vu but for the most part it succeeds. It has warmth and a sense of scale which will please old fans and win over a fresh generation to the series. 8/10.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
I’m a big Carrie Fisher fan. She’s appeared in 5 movies I love (When Harry Met Sally, The Blues Brothers and, of course, the Star Wars trilogy). Off screen she has seemed an interesting person, charming and funny in interviews, even if occasionally shambolic, and so when I saw this on my sister’s bookshelf I eagerly asked to borrow it.
I’m glad I did.
Based on her live show of the same name, Fisher talks about her life and her issues with addiction and mental health. From the show it keeps an amiable, conversational tone and I heard the whole thing in her voice.
The book is written with fantastic openness, Fisher is fantastically honest about her life, revealing details of her family history in a sardonic, indiscreet manner which makes for grey reading.
It’s not just a lurid tell all, filled with big names being dropped, because Fisher’s major focus is herself, her struggles and her stories. That may sound self absorbed but, then again, aren’t all autobiographies?
Fisher tells her story in funny, no-frills episodes, acknowledging that she’s had a strange life and sharing it in a way that feels like someone sitting you down and talking easily with you.
While a joke or sarky aside is never too far away, it does have serious moments, with Fisher talking about her mental health and addictions, but it never gets maudlin or depressing, because Fisher knows she’s lucky in lots of ways and is oddly positive.
It’s a great quick read and shows Fisher’s skills as a writer and is hugely entertaining.
Verdict: Funny, open and wonderfully indiscreet, Fisher is an engaging and amiable narrator who knows her failings and flaws all to well, but still has lots to share. It had me chuckling and it’s one of the best and most honest autobiographies I’ve read. 8/10.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
I think I may be shamed soon. Why? Because despite my reservations I can already feel the distant drums of geeky excitement in my head, and all because of less than a minute and a half of footage.
Yes, I watched the trailer for the Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens, JJ Abrams’ sequel to the original trilogy.
Previously I’d held on to my doubts. I’d been burned in 1999, when, having fallen head over hells in love with Star Wars I had gotten hyped up for the prequels only to be bitterly disappointed.
Sure, JJ Abrams has made some quality stuff in the past, and I’m intrigued by how they’re going to continue the saga.
But there are far too many doubts. Will the ageing cast still work in their roles or will this be another late addition which damages the original (like the last Indiana Jones flick). Mark Hamill has done great voiceover work, but Fisher and Ford are rusty, and Ford hasn’t had a truly great flick in years.
But despite this watching the trailer it got the geek fires burning. X-Wings, old Luke, the Falcon and a tease for the return of Han Solo, one of my first man crushes.
I got sucked into the hype last time, and I’m worried it’ll happen again. Sure I’m older but I still love Star Wars and love makes fools of us all.
I just pray to the geek gods that Abrams pulls this off and the sequels entertain in the way the originals did, but that the prequels failed to.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO
Comedy is harder than it looks. A lot of folks think that when a serious actor does a comedy its because they want an easy time. But that’s not true, because while improv and riffing results in a few decent gags, the best comedies tend to be the ones meticulously written and thought out. Timing is everything, and there’s a brilliant precision at work in most great comedies to assure they get the biggest laughs possible.
Of course, there are exceptions and this is one. The Blues Brothers is many things as a film, but precise and disciplined are not two of those, as the whole film has this crazy, anarchic feel to it. In places it’s baggy, overdone and even self indulgent, but it powers through on charm, humour and, of course, music.
Written by Dan Aykroyd and director John Landis the premise is simple- two musical, criminal brothers must raise money to save their old orphanage. To do so they put their band back together and perform a big show.
But then a bunch of stuff is thrown in and the brothers are pursued by various people they’ve annoyed- the police, a psychotic ex, neo-Nazis and a country band. Cue tons of over the top car chases where cop cars fly across the screen, piling up all over Illinois. It should feel aimless and stupid, but pulling it through are two wonderfully deadpan performances by Dan Aykroyd and John Belushi as Elwood and Jake Blues.
The characters were born out of SNL sketches and the movie works well as a series of “bits”- the blues band having to perform at a rowdy country bar, causing a scene at the posh restaurant an ex-band member works at (including the memorable, but never appropriate quote “How much for the little girl?”), the brothers commenting on the mall as they speed through chased by police etc.
Among my favourites is the brothers’ visit to “the Penguin” the mother superior of the orphanage they were raised in, played with stone faced toughness by Kathleen Freeman, it’s a hilarious scene as she scolds the two grown men, thwacking them with a wooden ruler when they swear, which only provokes more expletives. It might be where my fear of nuns began.
Aykroyd and Belushi work brilliantly off each other, bickering like real brothers and remaining deadpan as explosions, car chases and general madness ensues around them. Belushi in particular is sensational, especially in moments like his stone faced performance of the theme song of Rawhide, where he stands stock still before crossing the stage to pick up a bullwhip to crack for the finale.
The dark glasses help them and provide the film’s iconic look, but they’re still fantastic performances.
The supporting cast, like John Candy, Charles Napier and Carrie Fisher all do their jobs perfectly well
But the movie’s real strength is the music. John Landis would go on to direct “Thriller” probably the greatest music video of all time, and he shows his chops here with fantastic choreographed pieces to “Think”, “Shake A Tail Feather” and “Minnie The Moocher”. The Blues Brothers band might not be the best actors, but they play wonderfully and convince as an infectious, fun live lounge and a string of cameos from music greats ensure that there are some belters on the soundtrack.
In the end its the film’s crazy excess that make it stand out as one of the coolest, most bizarre movie musicals. Its easy to see why the movie has built up a cult following and its a movie that for me never fails to make me smile and want to shake a tail feather.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
Because of today’s date, today’s blog is Star Wars themed.
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I know you were expecting slavegirl Leia, but I saw this picture of Carrie Fisher years ago and thought she looked foxy as hell. Leia may be one of my favourite female sci-fi characters ever.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO.
For a while I’ve been thinking of doing posts where I discuss some of my all time favourite movies, in no particular order, and I decided to kick it off today with this flick, partly as a homage to the film’s writer, Nora Ephron, who passed away last night. Ephron was a great writer who pretty much set the template for the modern romantic comedy genre, and produced some wonderful movies. For my money, this is her best work.
Directed by Rob Reiner (another filmmaker with an impressive back catalogue) in 1989 the film follows the fortunes of Harry (Billy Crystal) and Sally (Meg Ryan), charting their developing relationship over the space of roughly 12 years. The film starts with them driving from Chicago to New York after graduating university and both needing someone to share the drive with, and knowing each other because Harry is dating a friend of Sally’s.
Over the course of the journey their wildly different world views cause them to clash and leave on bad terms, especially Harry’s assertion that “Men and women can’t be friends because the sex part always gets in the way“. Harry’s cynical, neurotic way of looking at things is completely at odds with the way Sally approaches life, being quite sweet and happy-go-lucky.
Five years later they bump into each other at the airport, where Sally is seeing off her boyfriend, who Harry knows. They share a flight together, but again leave on unfriendly terms, despite Harry attempting to suggest exceptions to his earlier rule.
The third meeting sees them bump into each other in New York, where both are coming out of serious relationships and trying to find their feet in the world of singledom. This time they do become friends and become very close, having late night phone conversations and both seeming to feel an attraction neither wishes to deal with.
They even set up each other with their best friends, Marie (Carrie Fisher) and Jess (Bruno Kirby), only for their friends to fall for each other and wind up getting together. Hearing that her ex is getting married an upset Sally calls Harry, who goes to console her and they end up having sex. This puts a massive strain on the friendship and they grow apart, despite Harry’s repeated attempts to reconnect with Sally.
Finally, on New Year’s Eve, with Sally bored at a party and Harry moping at home they realize they miss each other and Harry rushes to the party where he declares his love for her in a quite frankly brilliant speech.
Its hard to know where to start with why this film is so amazing, and what lifts it into a whole other league above most other rom-coms. And I speak as a man with a serious weakness for rom-coms.
First of all are the central performances, with Billy Crystal and Meg Ryan both being sensational. Crystal is hilarious as the neurotic, fast-talking Harry, a man who reads the last page of a book first so he knows how it’ll end just in case he dies half way through reading it. Despite all these weird, cynical foibles he’s immensely likable and charming, and you fully understand why he has such success with women.
Ryan meanwhile is probably at her best here, as the ever-so-odd Sally, she’s wonderfully sweet and almost naive at the beginning of the film, and retains this sweetness in a way that feels utterly real. She’s funny, smart and sexy and it makes total sense that Harry is attracted to her first.
They share a wonderful chemistry together and are helped by some wonderful dialogue, as you can see in the clip above. I’ve seen the movie compared a lot with some of Woody Allen’s work and I can definitely see it in the fast-talking, witty way the characters interact, but there’s a real sense of warmth here that isn’t always present in Allen’s work. Its a testament to Ephron’s skill that she manages to create a script where both genders sound natural in their conversation and which highlights the differences and similarities between the sexes in such a simple, subtle manner.
There are wonderful lines throughout the film and some great scenes. The part of the film most people mention is the scene in the diner where Sally fakes an orgasm to illustrate that Harry has no way of being sure that his partners really enjoyed himself. It is a great, iconic scene, with some great work from Ryan and the fantastic capping line at the end.
But for me, while I like that scene, there are other parts that shine brighter. I love the way the characters talk to each other, especially a late night phone conversation between the two where they discuss Casablanca or the opening sequence where they drive to New York.
Also one of the things that I remember most fondly from this film is the subplot of the two friends, Marie and Jess. Kirby and Fisher are wonderful as best friends who fall for each other, and there’s something really sweet in their scenes together. Including a lovely, brief moment where having discussed the problems Harry and Sally face Marie says “Tell me I’ll never have to be out there again” to which she gets the reassuring reply, “You’ll never have to be out there again“, which serves as a kind of proposal in the film.
The best friend roles in rom-coms are usually one note comedy relief bits or someone for the hero/heroine to complain to, so its really nice here that these supporting parts feel believable and are more charming and engaging than the protagonists in some films.
Another lovely touch is including these lovely interviews of elderly couples who share the stories of how they got together. These little sections that break up the movie are superb. They’re wonderfully nuanced little sections that are heartwarmingly sweet and feel utterly believable, I’ve never been sure if they’re real couples or actors, that’s how good they are and I’m unwilling to dig any deeper. It also sets up the sweet ending.
The main characters have charmingly realistic flaws- Harry’s opinionated at times, and incredibly neurotic, but its all tempered by this warmth and wit, while Sally’s picky ordering style is a charming insight into a woman who knows how she wants things. They’re never overplayed and they feel like real people, in a way that I think raises this film above most other rom-coms.
It gets both sections of the genre absolutely spot on. Its a brilliantly realized love story that really hooks you in and also includes several laugh out loud moments, with some brilliantly witty dialogue.
Also the film is gorgeous. It’s here that I can really see why people compared it to Woody Allen’s movies because it makes New York look like a glorious, almost magical city, and is probably one of the reasons why the city is up there on my list of places I’d love to go to.
Any thoughts? You know what to do. BETEO